Notes from the Sausage Factory: AF May Accelerate C-130J
Procurement to Control F-22 Costs!!!! 

October 27, 1998

Comment: #205

Discussion Thread:  #s 154 and 202, 203, 204


[1] Vago Muradian, "AIR FORCE CONSIDERS SPEEDING C-130J BUY TO CONTROL F-22 COST," Defense Daily, 23 October 1998.  Excerpts attached.

Vago Muradian reports in Reference #1 that the Washington POPs (Plutocrats on the Potomac) want to use the over-priced C-130J (see #154 & 204) to control the F-22's costs! With thinking like this, no one should be surprised when infantry captains commanding companies in first-to-fight battalions get mad because they do not have enough 60mm mortar ammunition to train with.

If this report is correct, the F-22 is in big trouble.

Chuck Spinney

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Reference #1

Defense Daily
23 October 1998


By Vago Muradian


"Lockheed has advised us, given our low number of orders over the next four years and none for next year, that they might have to close the C-130J line until we begin our currently planned program in 2004," a senior government official told Defense Daily yesterday. "If Lockheed does close the C-130 line until Air Force orders pick up in 2004, there may be upward price pressure on the F-22 as some of the plant overhead attributed to the C-130 migrates to the F-22 program. We want to avoid that."


"Since both aircraft are built in the same plant, any near-term increase in production of the C-130J would obviously have a positive effect on the F-22 program, because the cost of operating the plant would be spread over a large production base. This could help the Air Force achieve significant savings on both programs in the short and the long term ." Lee Whitney, a Lockheed Martin spokesman, told Defense Daily.


Should the Air Force decide to speed the purchase, however, it would constitute a sharp reversal given the service has publicly resisted the acquisition of the C-130J for a number of years.


In fact, some senior Air Force officials have complained that the C-130J has been forced on the service against its wishes.

In FY '99, for example, the Air Force asked for one C-130J but Congress added four to the request.


"We would be looking for at least a 10 percent reduction in the price of the aircraft," he added. "In exchange for the Air Force accelerating the program and helping Lockheed, and ourselves in the process--this is a two way street--we believe a more attractive price would be very appropriate."